GB - Peru ranking

[kurtthegod]

Formulas Y mas Formulas Traducidas Por Soyabean FROM FEEL.. haber si la paran

Hey, im eating dinner now.. nothing to do, translate the shiliang calculations for u guys ^^ First of all, this is an introduction to shiliang, because there are more styles to it, i will update it when i have time. In gb, there are 2 methods of calculations known to me. One is the wind index method that most of us are familair with. The other, is shiliang. Shiliang deals with the horizontal and vertical displacement due to the wind effect wheres wind index resolves these 2 displacement into a factor. The origins and details of shiliang can be found at knat's forums, in the original m2 guide.

Next, based on these 2 methods, a few styles of calculation has been derived. They are mainly these 3, fix power, fix angle, change angle change power. Some examples of fix power calculations include the xiaopao, banpao, and man pao. And the change angle change power calculations are the Bian Li Suan Jiao formulas.

Below, im going to translate the introduction part for m2's guide, which deals with the second style of calculation, fix angle.

All of us know that it is impossible to make a complete wind chart based on wind index for fix angle, for 2 simple reasons. Firstly, effect varies with distance, secondly, effect varies with wind. Therefore, shiliang becomes a more effective way of calculation.

Style: fix angle, calculate power

Wind chart:


Screen: 20 parts
x: horizontal displacement
y: vertical displacement
d: change in power
f: power at wind 0
a: angle

This formula uses armor as a reference. (all other bots can be used the same way except for mage and boomer, for boomer, just x2 the result)

Armor 60:

formula: 2x+y/100

Armor 40

formula: x+y/100

Complete formula: D=F*(Y+Xtga)/2(100-Y+Xtga)
Recommended formula: D=(Y+X)/(100-Y+X) for angle 40, D=(Y+2X)/(100-Y+2X) for angle 60

Explaination for simplification of the complete formula:
D=F*(Y+Xtga)/2(100-Y+Xtga)

Taking angle to be 40 (tga = 1), therefore,
D=F*(Y+X)/2(100-Y+X)

Taking power to be 2.0, therefore,
D=(Y+X)/(100-Y+X)

Usually, -Y+Xtga tends to be very small (there are exceptions, and they will be discussed below). Hence, we can further simplify it to become:
D=(Y+X)/(100)

When angle becomes 60, tga=2. Thats how m2 derived 2x+y/100

Example:
I will use angle 60 as example, using simplified formula: 2x+y/100
opponent 14 parts away. power to use at wind 0=2.0
wind blowing at bearing of 045, 10
formula = 2x+y/100
=2(0.7*10)+(0.7*10)/100
=0.21
power to use = 2.0 - 0.21 = 1.79 ~ 1.8

And now for the most important part, how to reduce errors. this formula has been simplified alot to allow easy calculations.

1)The change in power due to wind is only relevant for distance of 2.0 power, which is 14 parts.(We took F=2.0 previously to simplify the equation) If distance becomes further, like 1 screen(20 parts), the change in power increases. the reverse is true. u can either feel for the difference, or u can add some calculations, just take b/2*result. b being the power required to reach the distance. for full screen, b will be 2.45.

2)Secondly, a few wind directions have weird effect. (when 100-Y+2Xtga becomes very big or very small). For example, wind blowing at a bearing of 315, 20, 100-Y+2Xtga for angle 60 = 100 - (0.7*20) + (-0.7*20*2) = 58. You will need to multiply the result by some wind index to change the ans. Wind blowing around 000, 270, 315, *1.4 to result. Wind blowing around 090, 135, 180, *0.8 to result.

With that, the general idea of shiliang has been established. when i have time, i will translate the use of shiliang in xiaopao (2.4) banpao (2.8-2.95-3.05) for armor ^^

* If u are using the recommended formulas, u can ignore the second way of reducing errors.

Power at wind 0 for armor 40.

4 ————1.0
5 ————1.1
6 ————1.2
7 ————1.3
8 ————1.4
9 ————1.5
10————1.6
11————1.7
12————1.8
13————1.87
14————1.95
15————2.02
16————2.1
17————2.17
18————2.25
19————2.3
20————2.35

Armor 60 u can find it somewhere on this forums already. This one is provided by m2, so i suppose you will measure from the center of ur bot to where u want to hit.

Style: Fix power calculate angle

Manpao:
Firstly, just for your information, the calculations for this type of shooting style still contains some errors. It is not recommended to use it. m2 provided calculations for both boomer and armor, but I will only translate armor as this method for boomer is very impractical.

Power: Full power
Screen: 11 parts

Formula
Angle: Power at wind 0 + Horizontal displacement + Vertical displacement

Horizontal displacement = X/10
Vertical displacment = Y/2

Example:
Wind blowing at a bearing of 045, 20.
Distance = 1 screen
Angle: 79 + (0.7*20/10) + (0.7*20/2) = 79 + 1.4 + 7 = 87.5

Xiaopao and Banpao:
Known to many of us, xiaopao and banpao can be used with 14 parts, 20 parts, and 30 parts. But since 14 parts is not very practical, unless u r shooting beyond 1 screen distance, I will only translate for 20 parts and 30 parts.

Xiaopao:
Power: 2.4
Screen: 30 parts

Formula
Angle = Angle at wind 0 + Horizontal displacement + Vertical displacment

Horizontal displacement = X/2 (When X/2 is clsoe to 5, add 1 angle)
Vertical displacement = Y/8 (This is accurate for halfscreen - 1 screen distance, if distance is less than half, u will use Y/4, and as distance increases to 1-1.5 screen, use Y/16)

Example:
Wind blowing at the bearing of 079, 15
Distance: 24 parts
Angle = (90-24) + [(1*15/2)+1] + (0.5*15/8 ) = 75

Tired... later den translate banpao

Fuk u Chino.. Crees ke tengo tiempo para sacar toda tu Formula >_< debe ser horrible jugar gb con calculadora ala mano :-? no soy tan nerd como Soyabean 8)

Y dicen ke en las formulas no se piensa solo hago lo ke me dicen en un papel. ya tan las soluciones :lol:..
P.D: viendo esta formula para halla el poder necesario.. Ya no me dan ganas de jugar GB >_< yake saake full rojos en el cole..

RESPECT :arrow: Soyabean Lo hace :arrowl:

[jme]

aki nadie esta diciendo si se piensa o no, la cosa es ke se usa una tabla (windchart) para medir el tiro y eso pone en desventaja a los ke no usan eso, este topic es para saber cuales son los mejores jugadores/guilds de gb y como evaluarlos no cambien el tema poniendo como se usa cada cosa

[Hk]

Parece ke soy el uniko ke kree ke el koncepto de divertirse jugando ha sido distorsionado totalmente. En fin, en el torneo de Cavenet los veremos.

Yo no tengo nada en kontra de las formulas, pero si ustedes pierden los Gm kontra otros guilds; kreo ke deben formulear mejor ^^

[xXxGiaNxXx]

Hey donde consigo ese wind chart??!!!

[dnc]

Hey donde consigo ese wind chart??!!!

En esas 2 paginas puedes buscar formulas y tambien windcharts de diferentes mobiles.

http://www.gbpros.com/
http://www.rpgexpert.com/




Windchart del Armor

[chichO]

Quien creen q es el mejor Raon Launcher del Peru? :oops:

Pongan sus opiniones.

[kurtthegod]

kefka09 :arrowl: Simplente lo hace :D kefka90 (Raon mas temido del Peru y latinoamerica)

[_Kaleb_]

Ese keafka, mira yo propondria a mi amigo Higor, tb la hace con el Raon
Snip

[No_NuCLeuS]

chicho tmb usa el raon bien chevre :D solo ke es medio kaleta :o pero si jeuga chevre aunke ultimamamente no ha estdo conectado ¬¬ 8)

[Zizard]

Ese keafka, mira yo propondria a mi amigo Higor, tb la hace con el Raon
Snip

Eso eso higor la destruye con el raon! 8)
Snip = Pro raon :arrowl: :arrowl:

[Hk]

Mi voto tmb va para kefka.

[MataCabros2]

Snip la hace ^^ y eso que no es su mejor bot.
Snip Pro en todo menos metiendo floro a su enamorada xD

[dnc]

kefka rlz :D.
Mi voto es para el ^^

[o0o]

n_n kefka n_n > atreyusito can wit allz <

Go go go Nirvana! n_n

cdense
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[Hk]

Kuando terminen kon el raeon empiezan uno de bigfoot ps :P

[GøNz@Lø]

Mi voto es pàra ICsGonzaloI de G3Peru en GLS
xD

[Alejandro4ever]

Mi voto es pàra ICsGonzaloI de G3Peru en GLS
xD

Mi voto es para los pollos,achitas y pros.

TIENEN Q VER NUEVOS TALENTOS O ACASO LOS MAS CONOCIDOS Y LOS Q TIENEN BUEN LEVEL, SON BUENOS NO HAN VISTO MUCHO.

SI QUIEREN VER NUESVOS TALENTOS BUSQUELOS Y MAS EN LA ZONA 6
EN AVATAR APAGADO, HAY GENTE Q JUEGO PERO NO TIENE LEVEL Y PARA COLMO LOS KIKEA X Q NO TIENEN LEVEL NI AVATAR.

CREO Q DEBEN DE PROBAR A LOS POLLOS NO DISCRIMINEN A LOS POLLOS X PUEDEN DARLES UNA SORPRESA INESPERADA.


ESE ES MI VOTO :D :D

Nota: No kikeen a los pollos x ser pollos dejen les probar lo q valen hacer en un vs :D :D :D

[chichO]

Pense en tener mas acogida x parte de la gente q me ha visto cn mi Raon :( :oops:

[SnK-ResTpacK]

eso eso eso es... kefka mejor raon :)
aunke yo tb juego con ese bot pero soolo hago puro sg :-(
ademas hay otros jugadores buenos con este bot
pero kefka sobresale..
nice man la haces 8)
se me cuidan gente ... ya no juego muxo
toy demasiado templao :oops: y paro con LihT too el dia :D :lol:
weno byesss

ResT4ever

[Unreal_ciCnesS]

Para mi el que seria el mejor jugador de GB en el Peru seria aquel que usa Armor , como que raon no me parece tan dificil de usar no se necesita tanta precision como con armor o por que no turtle , son dos grandes mobiles sin dejar de lado al boomer aunque el armor tiene ventaja sobre todos ya que es recio , su tiro 2 es matador y su SS es facil de usar.

No he jugado con los Top gamers peruanos para ver que tal el level con armor pero que hablen los que conozcan.
He escuchado que hakingu la rompe pero no lo he visto jugar , haganle un videito Killing Spree :D